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‘What is the purpose?’ NC bill on teaching LGBTQ issues likely to be blocked by governor

Sen. Michael Lee presides over the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee during its meeting on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 in the Legislative Office Building in Raleigh, N.C.
Sen. Michael Lee presides over the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee during its meeting on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 in the Legislative Office Building in Raleigh, N.C. rwillett@newsobserver.com

A bill from North Carolina Senate Republicans that regulates teaching about LGBTQ people is almost surely going to be blocked by Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper, if it gets that far.

But expect to see it live on in the election, which is shaping up to be fought on many familiar culture-war battlegrounds as well as newer ones involving parents’ role in schools. One supporter called it a litmus test for voting this fall.

The General Assembly has Republican majorities in both the House and Senate, but not the supermajorities needed to override a veto from the governor unless Democrats vote with them.

On Wednesday, Cooper compared the bill to Florida’s so-called “Don’t Say Gay” bill.

“Schools are grateful for involved parents and we need even more of them working together with teachers to educate our children,” Cooper said in an emailed statement. “However, the last thing our state needs is another Republican political ploy like the bathroom bill which hurt our people and cost us jobs, so let’s keep the “Don’t Say Gay” culture wars out of North Carolina classrooms,” he said.

House Bill 755 was replaced with a new bill that outlines how information would be shared between parents and schools. It would ban curriculum about LGBTQ people for students in kindergarten through third grade, among other things.

The bill would require notifying parents of “changes in the name or pronoun used for a student” at school, and would ban “instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity” in K-3 curriculum.

In a committee on Wednesday, Sen. Deanna Ballard, a Watauga County Republican, said the bill is “in no way restricting or prohibiting any conversation” in classrooms.

“If a teacher has a same-sex partner, we’re not stifling discussion,” she said.

Sen. Gladys Robinson, a Guilford County Democrat and former school principal and administrator, said much of the bill repeats policy that already exists about parent interaction with schools.

“What is the purpose?” Robinson asked in the committee. She called it an undue burden on schools and classrooms.

Senator Deanna Ballard, Chair of the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee, speaks during debate of HB 755 on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 in the Legislative Office Building in Raleigh, N.C.
Senator Deanna Ballard, Chair of the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee, speaks during debate of HB 755 on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 in the Legislative Office Building in Raleigh, N.C. Robert Willett rwillett@newsobserver.com

Comparisons to ‘bathroom bill’

Sen. Jay Chaudhuri, a Raleigh Democrat, said the bill “censors and mandates what’s taught in our classrooms by politicians.” He said it could be interpreted as “sending a signal outside North Carolina that our state is not a welcoming place.”

He also likened it to the “return of an HB2-like bill that will essentially halt or slow down the great economic development we’ve had in North Carolina.”

HB2, which became known nationally as “the bathroom bill,” was mostly repealed. It banned transgender people in schools and other government buildings from using restrooms that corresponded to their identity. It had a negative economic impact on the state and was blamed for several businesses and major events being located elsewhere as a result.

Chaudhuri also questioned the timing of the education bill the day after at least 19 elementary school children and two teachers were shot and killed at a school in Ulvade, Texas.

“As a parent, the right I care about is the right to keep our children safe in schools,” he said.

“Censoring school curriculums isn’t going to keep our kids alive,” and said they should set the legislation aside and “do something that addresses every parent’s worst fear today, that our kids could be shot dead in school.”

Senator Jay Chaudhuri of Wake County questions Senator Deanna Ballard during discussion of HB 755 before the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 in the Legislative Office Building in Raleigh, N.C.
Senator Jay Chaudhuri of Wake County questions Senator Deanna Ballard during discussion of HB 755 before the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 in the Legislative Office Building in Raleigh, N.C. Robert Willett rwillett@newsobserver.com

Chaudhuri and Republican Sen. Michael Lee had a tense exchange, with Republicans telling Chaudhuri his comments were not germane to the bill. Lee said “we all feel for the folks in Texas” and accused Chaudhuri of using the bill as a platform for “some other political gain.”

‘Litmus’ for election

Renee Sekel, who is part of Save Our Schools NC, which advocates for public schools, said the bill “will harm children.”

Sekel said she was abused as a child and after she told a teacher about what was happening at home, the abuse continued.

“I learned that school was safe only as long as I kept my mouth shut,” she said.

NCAE President Tamika Walker Kelly speaks during a public hearing on HB 755 before the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 in the Legislative Office Building in Raleigh, N.C.
NCAE President Tamika Walker Kelly speaks during a public hearing on HB 755 before the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 in the Legislative Office Building in Raleigh, N.C. Robert Willett rwillett@newsobserver.com

Tamika Walker Kelly, leader of the North Carolina Association of Educators, opposed the bill, saying it “does nothing to address the very real issues facing our public education system today.”

Pat Blackburn of Moms for Liberty, a conservative parents’ rights group, was one of multiple speakers who told senators they supported the bill. She called it “a start.”

“This is a litmus for how we are all voting in November,” Blackburn said.

Pat Blackburn, with Moms for Liberty, speaks during a public hearing on HB 755 before the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee, on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 in the Legislative Office Building in Raleigh, N.C.
Pat Blackburn, with Moms for Liberty, speaks during a public hearing on HB 755 before the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee, on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 in the Legislative Office Building in Raleigh, N.C. Robert Willett rwillett@newsobserver.com

All 120 House seats and 50 Senate seats in the General Assembly are up for election this fall.

Rolled out in a press conference on Tuesday night, the bill cleared its first hurdle Wednesday in the Senate Education Committee. It still has to go through more committees before going to the Senate floor for a vote. Then the House would also have to vote on the bill. If it passes the legislature, it would go to Cooper’s desk.

Lee, of New Hanover County, told The N&O after the meeting that it could go to the Senate Health committee this or next week, and hopes it would go to a vote on the Senate floor in the next couple of weeks.

Lee remains hopeful about the bill’s future.

“I have no control over the House or the governor, all I can control is what we do in the Senate. So I’m hopeful the House passes the bill intact, and I’m hopeful the governor signs it,” he said.

House Speaker Tim Moore told reporters after session on Wednesday that “if our schools will simply focus on education and not wading into other things, everybody comes out better.” He said students in kindergarten through third grade are too young to “be burdened with those kinds of issues.”

Moore said he hasn’t read the bill yet, but believes “that parents have a right to know what’s happening. There needs to be transparency and there need to be opportunities and mechanism where parents have the opportunity to make sure their students are receiving the kind of instruction they believe is appropriate.”

For more North Carolina government and politics news, listen to the Under the Dome politics podcast from The News & Observer and the NC Insider. You can find it at https://campsite.bio/underthedome or wherever you get your podcasts.

This story was originally published May 25, 2022 at 5:02 PM with the headline "‘What is the purpose?’ NC bill on teaching LGBTQ issues likely to be blocked by governor."

Dawn Baumgartner Vaughan
The News & Observer
Dawn Baumgartner Vaughan is the Capitol Bureau Chief for The News & Observer, leading coverage of the legislative and executive branches in North Carolina with a focus on the governor, General Assembly leadership and state budget. She has received the McClatchy President’s Award, N.C. Open Government Coalition Sunshine Award and several North Carolina Press Association awards, including for politics and investigative reporting.
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